AI Pet Translator and AI Creative Ideation

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Good morning, everybody. Happy Wednesday, October 16th 2024. It's time to wake up with AI here with Niko and George. How you fellas doing today?

I'm doing well, sir.

Yeah. Good. Good. Ready to rock and roll. Actually, I'm sitting here in anticipation because at the very beginning, Niko decided to drop a bomb right before you were gonna say, good morning.

Wake up. Now I'm worried about what we already talked about today. Yeah. I'm like, geez.

Thanks, Nico. When is it not exciting? If you're saying it today.

Every day, man.

Hang on to your butts. See you guys shortly.

What are what

are we waking up to today?

What rabbit hole am I gonna go down the next 7 days?

I think this one is probably one of the more interesting more interesting. They're all interesting to me, but this one I think is more interesting to listeners and viewers because it is, like, way more probable for them. And, you know, I know that we'd spend a lot of time talking about, like, AI from a utility perspective. We talk about AI from, like, a philosophical perspective, but we're getting into the age where AI is making it into the device. So we're getting into the device age and it's becoming not only part of, like, a companion part of your life, but it's also becoming, like, an advisor part of your of your life, especially if you're leveraging any sort of the voice modes that are available.

You have a a really good understanding for what it's like to kind of work with one of these models. What's happening now is something I've been looking forward to. It was something that they have been kind of cracking into for years. Now that we have the the tech to sort of understand the patterns, essentially, and understand the audio, especially with the multimodal aspects of these models, you know, it started with whales, and it's finally made its way to dogs.

Wait. What? Explain.

Now see what is

what is oh my god.

We discovered just as a species, like, you know, not too long ago, and I say that in comparison to the tens of 1000 of years we've been on the planet, that, you know, dolphins communicate to each other. Right? They use some sort of sound waves to communicate with each other. Yeah. Potentially even telepathically, but we're we're not quite sure yet.

And then we know for a dead fact that whales do this. Right? And they use these sounds to communicate with each other over super, super long distances. Yeah. Oh, what are they saying?

Right? And the same thing with chimps, the same thing with any other animal realistically. With chimps, we have this sort of non tech rate tech kinda. I don't know how you wanna call the evolution of language. It's not really a technology.

It's more of a utility, but we had slight a slight breakthrough when we used sign language, and we could each sign language to chimps and we could kind of have language back and forth. Yeah. Now it's the collar. So it's the collar that can analyze the bark. It's the same way in which we had a technology that you could put up here.

No. No. No. No.

No. No. No. No. No.

It anal it analyzes No. No. No. Vocals that are coming through, and it puts that against a potential pattern based on the breed, based on the background, based on everything, and it tries to

No. I don't wanna know that my dog doesn't like its food. I don't wanna know that the dog thinks my butt smells. Whatever whatever it's thinking. I don't know what I need to know.

See this? I don't know about this one right here, bro.

I mean, I I look at it

give you a heads up that something might be wrong based on the smell of your butt.

Well so, like, service dogs okay. See, you you why why why is it gotta be the smell of my butt? Anyway but service dogs would be real interesting. Right? Like because they're already trained to, like, you know, diabetes, heart stuff, anxiety.

So now in that light, it becomes very intriguing and interesting. But in your everyday average run of the mill backyard mutt dog who's just like, let's be honest, usually a pain in your butt anyway. Like, you don't want him to be able to verbally flip you the bird because you didn't give him his bone in time or something. Like, anyway

I mean Now we can

There's there is

a got their owners that that Yeah. Prisoners.

I don't like that guys.

I'm not everywhere. Or just be like, okay. Are you really are you really a sport animal, or are you just having fun today? Like, you're just trying to come somewhere you're not able to come usually.

Yeah. Can you imagine you're walking into, like, Lowe's and your dog's like, she's lying.

I'm like, god. Yeah. It's a it's a fake limp. It's not a real limp. She's been doing it for years.

Yeah. I mean,

I think about positive

uses. Oh, just that it is. Yeah.

The wrong way to think about this application, probably.

Oh, right. Right. And it's it's kinda funny because, you know, this comes on, like, the cusp of, Dario's essay that he just released sort of where he was attempting to solely speak to the positive turnouts of AI and then what would, you know, be our future. It just made me stop and think, I I have the same thoughts as you guys, but then that was interrupted by Disney. And I was like, we watch movies where we wish our pets could talk to each other and, like, wish that they could talk to us.

So is it going to be weird? Like, I think a lot of owners will use it off and on, almost like I I don't know how it's gonna work out for the dog because, you know, you put the collar on, and it's like, please don't take it off.

Yeah. Right?

But I I see it being yeah. Like, I I see it being a thing where every owner's probably gonna have one just out of most owners, I think, are gonna have one just out of sheer curiosity to wanna know what it is that their dog is thinking or their their cat is thinking. Like, I know nobody wants to hear what cats are saying because we all know how that works out, but I I think it presents a very interesting yeah. We we thought about this future where we are communicating with each other differently, where we are working with each other differently. How often have we thought about a future where we are communicating with other things, with other animals, with other beings?

Not until this morning. Not until, like, 7 minutes ago. But, listen, when I woke up this morning, if you would have given me I'll give you $500,000 if you can guess the conversation you're gonna have this morning, I'd be a total loser. Yeah.

That's why we got Nico. It goes deep.

Man. Yeah. So so okay. But let's but let's let's talk about this, though.

With, like, a nice Sam Altman fireside chat, and then he's like, we're gonna talk about dog lovers.

Well Yeah. So so here's my question, though. Like, so tie it in because this is wake up with AI. Tie in dog collars that now your dog can tell you it's not hungry and just put the food away to, like, AI? Like, where how are how are these tying together this morning?

Okay. Well, so we're using we're using the AI as part of the technology that is understanding what the dog is is trying to tell us. Right? So it folds in in that sense. And then here's another aspect of it where I mean, this is we're talking about trained animals, but we're also talking about potential futures.

So I'm talking about specifically trained animals at this point, which think about that. Right? We talk about, like, how this boosts the economy into the future, and so training your animal now becomes a lot easier. So even the thought of, like, using dog trainers more becomes a whole thing. Dog trainers in general who specify in AI, like, AI trained dogs, however you wanna put that.

Right? It's also possible that through whatever they are translating, now we have this, like, canine language that we can use to better their medical histories. Right? We have all these, like we have now understandings of when a dog is not feeling right. We have this verbal acuity and this verbal feedback of, oh, yeah.

This is what makes me happy. This is what I like. This is what I don't like. Now translate that. You want me to I'll take it round the portal, baby.

Translate that over to marketing. Hey, Petco. How you like them stats about them dogs. Right? Because you think you know based on, like, oh, well, this dog ate that food, so they clearly like this food better than that food.

Do you? Or was it just that they were so tired of eating the same food that they were like, oh, no. This is way better because I I just normally eat that crap. Right? Or, you know, maybe the types of toys they play with.

We understand that they're partially colorblind, so we would be able to pick up a toy in a in a store and be like, hey. Do you want this one, or do you want that one?

I do have some immediate questions I would ask. Like, why every time I give you a, like, fuzzy toy, you rip it in, like, 50 pieces, and I have to pick up the fuzz off my carpet? That's, like, the first question I'm asking them.

What did the fuzzies do to you?

Like yeah. Yeah. What did what did this little teddy bear do to you that you had to, like, be so aggressive and, like, tear it into shreds? Like, get the entire minds one out.

Why would you keep giving these to me? Like, I just rip them to shreds to show you how much I hate them. Like, stop it. Yeah. I think about, like, the innate warning systems, you know, that that other animals have, like, when they know something's up, like, that kind of application too would be super interesting to prove.

Like so much of this is like proving out theories that we've been trying to build and like based on nonverbal communication, basically, like adding a layer of possible verbal communication. I mean, just, yeah.

It's like, you know, we're in this era of doctor Doolittle now. Right. Imagine what this does for veterinary. How how amazing is it to be a vet technician now and not have to worry about, you know, necessarily talking to the dog about condition or, like, anything. You know what I mean?

Like, you're actually talking to your dog now as opposed to talking to the owner who the owner pays attention to what, just pattern behavior. Right? But that doesn't necessarily speak to are dogs depressed? Do they have any sort of issues? Like, you know what I mean?

Like, there's there's a lot of questions we aren't able to answer currently that we will be able to answer soon. And again, not just dogs, apply it to you know, who knows? Who knows how many animals it'll it'll end up being applied to? But fact of the matter is, yes, we have these massive, massive lexicons of sounds of of animals that we can now feed into these machines and using, you know, using their ability to sift through the data and find the needle in the haystack, we can actually derive languages for animals at this point. So it becomes this really amazing zoological change.

And the only reason I bring it up is because it's just like I love to show the examples of where it's going to disrupt things that you didn't think it would. I I talk about it all the time when I say, like, AI is going to be in everything, and I'm sure everybody walks in, you know, thinks about yeah. Okay. Okay. Like, can you put AI in my coffee cup?

Yeah. Probably. Yeah. Probably gonna put it in your coffee cup so that it can sense when your coffee is getting cold, and it'll automatically start warming your coffee up. How about that one?

I mean, let's be honest. Internet of things. Right? We whoever thought that you'd have, like, Wi Fi in your refrigerator? Or, like Right.

Anyway, like, it's crazy how this goes. But my question I I have so many feelings right now. Like, one, I'm, like, I'm imagining going to the vet and, you know, are you allergic to any medicines? Woah. Woah.

Woah. Woah. Woah. You know? And then also, it's like, yeah.

I'm allergic to this. And and the owner's like, you were? I forgot about that. That's right. But, you know?

And, and and then, of course, it'd be like, dumbass. Like, that basically be, like, the next phase of it. Right? You're like, oh, come on. Like, I'm sorry.

I'm doing the best I can. And so, like, now then I think about how there's people out there like, oh, yeah. That's our fur baby. Oh, now you're really gonna know what it's like to have kids because that thing can start to talk back to you. Like and then I'm like, how far is 24?

Like, do I really want my fish in my aquarium behind me to be like and it's like, hey, dude. You haven't fed me in 2 days. No. Not really. Like, maybe I mean, I have fed my fish, so don't, like, call anybody because I take care of them.

Okay? I I I take care of the fish. Where do you draw the line like? I don't know. And, also, did you just do this because you knew it'd be impossible for me to actually tie it to the, like, skill of the day?

Because I don't even jeez. Challenge.

It was kind of a challenge. Yeah. I was just like, I don't think there's any way that you could, but I'm interested to hear what the skill is because, yeah, I wanna see if I if maybe I could fight back.

That's my one superpower is being able to connect things that should not be connected. So let's let's do it, George.

I mean, I guess at some level, we're gonna need somebody who can design the collars. We're probably gonna need somebody who will design the manual or the way to actually onboard these things, or the marketer will have to draw pictures to sell the stuff. I don't know. I'm I'm dying here. Anyway, welcome back to another segment of the AI skill that pays the bills, and this one is for the creative listeners.

Hey. If you got dogs or cats, it might be for you too. Today, we're diving into one of my all time favorite topics, creative idea generation. By the way, this is one heck of a creative idea, by the way. Let's just say that.

Maybe they put it in AI. Can we build a dog collar that, like, translates? Anyway, whether you're a designer, a marketer, or just someone trying to come up with the next big thing, talking dog collars. You know that sometimes inspiration can feel like it's hiding behind the corner or a rock. You stare at a blank page, an empty whiteboard, and you wonder, where's that spark when I need it?

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I've said that a 1000000 times in these segments. It's here to amplify your mojo. Remember, like I always say, it's human powered AI assisted. I want you to picture this. You've got a big design project that needs to stand out.

You have a rough idea of where you want to go, but you just can't quite get there, can't bring it to life. And this is where AI creative idea generation comes into play. Instead of spending hours or even days staring at a screen, been there, done that, got the t shirt, war horse holes through it, you can use AI to kick start your creative process. You feed your rough idea into an AI tool, and suddenly, it's generating concepts, angles, and taglines that you might have not have even imagined before. It's like having a brainstorming partner who's always full of ideas, never runs out of energy, and keeps the ball rolling as long as you need.

Now some of you might be thinking, but, George, AI isn't human. How can it really be creative? And you're right. AI isn't an artist. It doesn't feel or dream.

I mean, before today, I didn't think there was gonna be talking dogs and cats, but what does it do? It analyzes patterns pulled from enormous pools of data and presents you with new angles. Think of it this way. You're still the creative genius, but AI gives you more brushes, more colors, more tools to bring your vision to life. You're not handing over control.

You're expanding your toolkit. So before we get out of here, let's go ahead and give you some things to think about. Alright. Three things that we're gonna hit upon here. Bottom line for today's AI skill that pays the bill.

AI powered creative idea generation is like having a brainstorming buddy who's always ready to go. You're the creative force. You get the help. You find the golden ideas, and you refine it. Remember, stay creative.

Stay curious, and let AI help you supercharge your next big idea. The magic's still all you. Trust me, creative genius, that's probably twitching right now. AI just helps you get there a little bit faster. Alright, gentlemen.

That's today's AI skills that pay the bills for those people who need to design talking dog collars and weird stuff in the future.

Yeah. I mean, that it does it does actually relate back.

Please let this Wi Fi hold up so that I can drop this knowledge. Because it kind of aligns with what I what I was thinking when I was when Niko started kind of describing what could happen here. Like, imagine so not only relying on AI to help ideate help. I mean, there's so many examples out there right now, and I just finished listening to AI driven leader. And it's like those examples where it's like, yeah, I asked for 5 things and 4 of them already had, but the 5th one, man, like I missed that one.

And that was the best one. It hit the hardest. It was the the most, like, most creative one that maybe we get there ourselves eventually, but maybe not, most often not. Now imagine AI helping access other pools of inspiration, like a dog with a collar on, like looking at the TV screen a different way than you do and just says something random. Like, oh shit, that's a good idea.

And like, have you guys seen the movie Arrival? Like, it's so much about language and linguistics and trying to learn about these, these, you know, aliens that have come to Earth. And spoiler alert, if you haven't seen it, like, a part of the process is understanding how their language is built. Right? And that they don't even like, it's not even constructed the same way as our ours is.

It's like a multi dimensions and time is involved. And, like, imagine as we start accessing these other communication systems, like with animals, like, what are we gonna what are we gonna find out? And more likely than not, there's a lower level of intelligence at that level. So us as humans in between accessing lower levels that are getting better, but also AI on this side, it's like, man, the possibilities. Right?

Instead of tell it to me like I'm 5. Tell it to me like I'm a dog.

Yeah. Yeah. But here's but here's the thing. How do humans stand up? How do they feel about themselves when this technology gets turned on, and all of a sudden, it's a dog telling Sam Altman and team the rest of the code they need because it's not lower level?

Like, we've only thought everything is lower level because we can't communicate with them. So when all of a sudden this gets unlocked, what if it's not the world that you thought you've been living in? Well, to me, that means that it's time to

Wake up.

Because it's gonna you don't know.

Well, I don't. That's why

I a minute after this episode, gentlemen. I might need a minute. Like

And it's, I mean, it's an interesting thing because what's most interesting about it to me is that, you know, of course, we're developing this thing here in this, you know, at least so far as I understand it, like the first ones here developed in states. And so, of course, it's also being the first one that's gonna be translated to English. Right? Which is almost like saying, hey. We're gonna choose the hardest language in the world, and we're gonna we're gonna go with that one.

And I know that people say this is this is what's funny. I know people say that Nordic languages are very difficult. Right? Like, trying to learn Finnish. Finnish is said to be one of the most difficult languages in the world.

Maybe from a colossal point of view, from being able to actually say it to being able to pronounce words and things of that nature, maybe. But from a just linguistics rules of how to speak and how to use language point of view, no. English is by far the worst, the most difficult. We have the the largest history of words that we use to mean the same thing. We have, like, 12 words for practically every single object.

And I Or one word

for 12 things. Yes. Yes. Like, that's the other thing. Like, I love the comedians that'll be like let's just say the word maybe, like, arse, but, you know, the real word, and they'll use it 12 different ways, but it's the same word.

It's it's I love it.

Or yeah. And I love that you brought up arrival because that was actually the way in which I help I tried to help people understand how to prompt is to, like, understand that, like, the model needs context. So you need to give it context in the same way that somebody doesn't understand the language that you're speaking. You have to explain this part relates to this, this part relates to that, that relates to this. This was back in GVT 335, so it's a little bit different now.

You have to explain a lot less, in that sense, but I'm sure this is what's hilarious. This is what's funny to me. I'm sure that you all remember about a year ago when we were doing nothing but coming up with, hey. You are gonna take on the persona of this, that, the other thing. And I mean, I have pages, bro.

Pages in a Google Doc of persona for rev ops, persona for a writer, persona for this, persona for that, and it was all primers that I used to use. I don't use any of that anymore. Right? So things to think about in terms of, like, how the model is also evolving as you're using it. Right?

So things that you used to have to even do probably last year in terms of how you talk to the model and how you guided it, you probably don't have to do this year. You probably won't have to do next year. So the interpretability to your point here's here's what's scary. One time, I don't know how many other

people Now you're gonna get to what's scary? The the thing that we talked about at the beginning, what wasn't scary for some people? Oh, okay. Okay.

I whenever I say that, you have to understand that I'm applying the here's what's scary to the thing I just said, like, 10 seconds ago. Oh. The scary part about the animals, I'm not gonna touch on. The scary part about the linguistics, though, is that if you ask GPT, do you understand the colloquial use of the word minute? It will tell you all definitions that are used.

It will tell you it's a measure of time. It will tell you that it is a slang measure of time to mean a short amount of time, slang measure of time to mean a medium amount of time, and or slang used to mean a long amount of time depending on the context of where the word is in the sentence. So if you say, I'll be back in a minute, it knows you're gonna be back in a little bit. But if you say, man, so you know, GBT, we haven't talked in a minute. It understands what you mean.

We haven't talked in a while.

Yeah. We And I think, like

maybe use that understands word loosely.

But yeah. I mean, what what does understanding mean? It means that here we go.

That's a whole another episode. Yeah. We can't.

Yeah. I think that's that's what's about to get proven if we truly do access these other communications. Because I'm sure some animals will immediately just communicate much more clearly than humans do. And it'll be curious to think about things like because at some point, biology and the brain, are involved. And if you have a smaller brain in theory, there's less that can happen.

And as AI is just a brain that that uses a 100% instead of humans that use 10%, we're about to see how much of that 90%, like, we actually don't need and we just developed because we're scared. It's just fun to think about for me, at least. Not scary at all.

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