AI Coding, Adobe Max, and Replacement or Remix

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Good morning, LinkedIn, YouTube, wherever you might be listening or watching to this. It's time to wake up with AI, and I could use some help waking up today, honestly. So thankful to be here with George and Nico. How you fellas doing today?

Doing good as as per usual. Mine's buzzing. A lot of news going on. Trying to figure out what's what's the most important.

I'm, sipping on a Vida Coco coconut water, not sponsored, by the way, but call us, I mean, if you want. I'm doing good. I'm staying hydrated. Super excited to have whatever conversation happens. I'm still reeling from yesterday's dog translator caller conversation a little bit.

I'm buckled in. I'm ready to go and see what happens today.

Yeah. I I feel like the word outperforms is becoming the new, like, game changer, Seeing it in so many of these titles, especially as these models get better. Just, some behind the scenes here. I'm starting to feel like the guy at the rodeo, that's the one that just opens the gate and, like, me hitting play is, like, Nico is just, like, just, like,

ready. The bull's coming out, baby. The bull's coming out.

Alright. So let's hear it, Nico. What do you expect

about that? The clown that's running around the barrels.

Come on. Come on. It's a tough one, guys. It's so tough because even even with one day to go in the week, there's stuff that happened that we don't have enough time to cover. Such on, like, one really cool highlighty thing is Adobe Max is happening right now.

So if you're a former photographer, designer, graphic designer, 3 d artist, sketch artist, any anything to do with art and if you've ever worked with Adobe, Max conference is happening. Sneak peek just dropped last night. Those videos just dropped, I think, between last night and and today. Outside of the video generation stuff, which most of you should have already seen from Max last year, it's really just that they're finally pushing it client side. The coolest stuff that I have seen so far is just an animator and photographer's dream.

One of them is the ability to quite literally just merge any subject matter from any image into another image, hit a button, and have all the lighting and shadows and everything all perfectly aligned. 100%.

Oh, yeah.

Mean, it doesn't matter the condition. Could be somebody that's underexposed, and you put them in a different image, and it fixes the exposure. Could be overexposed image, fixes it. Could be different time of year, different time of day, different setting, different lighting, does not matter. Somebody that that did an example where dude had disco lights on his face, and it fixed it, made it perfectly normal.

They also have another feature. I can't go through all of them, but they have another feature that I know animators are gonna love, especially 2 d animators because when you first start out, it is so very difficult to do this. A lot of them have issues with trying to draw everything from different perspectives and different angles. So there's been technology if you've been following the the beat. There's been tech over the last year and a half that I've been looking forward to which, you know, just been reeling for the sketch to animation stuff, and it's really, really getting there so quickly.

What has happened in the last year is a lot of tech that's related to taking things that are in 2 dimensional space and rendering them in 3-dimensional space from just the 2 dimensional image. So that's happened. It's just that that's a thing now. So that's what happens in this engine is that it's taking your two dimensional image. You can just select it, and then it takes less than 10 seconds.

And then you can just start shifting it around as if it was in 3 d, but it retains its 2 d look. It's tough to explain. I I maybe show you guys some visuals tomorrow, but it is if you're an animator, you understand, you know, you draw a character facing something, but you meant it to be facing the other direction. Maybe you drew it backwards or you wanted to change something. Instead of having to redraw it entirely, you're now able to just select it and literally turn it around, and it retains everything.

I'm trying not to get pissed right now. I I really am. Because, like, the amount of blender tutorials that I watched or, like, the amount of time I spent with I think it was grayscalegorilla. The amount of time I've spent my life trying to do 3 d stuff, and now it's like, beep, bop, boop, poof. You have a 3 d vase.

That makes me actually wanna go back to bed, not Wake up. Because I'm frustrated now because it's getting too easy. Or Well or is it, though?

I mean, like, everybody that thinks about it in that sense is like, well, okay. If the time is taken out of doing the thing, it's only a loss if the actual doing of it is what you loved. If the actual, like, tracing the pencil across the paper. Right? For those artists, nothing changes.

Maybe your style gets better or maybe what you do gets better, but what does happen is for other artists who aren't good at that part, but they're great at the storytelling part, they're great at the ideas part, they're great at the colors part, They get to advance forward. They get to put their ideas forward and not be blockaded by a skills aspect of it. Right? Maybe you have the a great idea for what an architectural design should be, but you don't have the background knowledge of architecture to be able to properly build the the blueprint so that it is, you know, possible. But what if you could just hand that sketch over?

So that's actually I'm I'm not saying that that in and of itself. I mean, NVIDIA is working on that if you if you're paying attention, they are rapidly working on a a way to prototype, factories just by taking pictures of the lots.

What's interesting is my brain goes to the right to create. The rate, the speed in which one can now create. And by the way, no matter what it's been historically, that's the part that I loved, taking nothing to something. And, like, what you're talking about here is our ability to create no matter what your historical skill set was, which is beautiful because it frees a lot of people to do more.

I wanna say, yeah, the last part of it was essentially the ability to take a sketch, which I know a lot of marketers, I know a lot of salespeople would love to do this whenever they're doing promos or events. The ability to take a sketch and turn that into just a full blown Photoshop file with everything all in its own objects, texts, you know, broken out so that you can edit it, all that kind of thing. And then being able to take that and do your design, change whatever you need to. And in one click, you can change it from that to all the various social formats that you would need. And it's not just, like, stretched and kind of arranged and mishmashed or something.

No. It's it's really accurately, like, resizes things, replaces them. Because it breaks everything in the image up into separate layered elements. It can just go ahead and do that. And if you wanted to in one of those panels, maybe you it was like I think the example was like a Halloween thing and there were some bats in there and it's like, well, if in one of those panels you wanted to change one of the aspects of the bats, there's another tool that you can use now where if you change that element there, it'll add it to all of them all throughout all of the panels, even the ones that are changed in different directions.

Right? So it's

like smart content, but for your for your So no real products.

Seriously smart content. And this applies not just to, like, 2 d stuff, but also 3 d. Didn't matter what the style was. So it could do it with whatever creative style that you were using. If you gave it something that was posterized, it could do it with posterized.

Just some very, very, very cool

And you're saving, like, 75% of a b to b, like, marketer sign, like, resizing and redoing when when the boss says, oh, you missed this part, or we need to add this. Like, this team just created this thing, and now it's gotta be in all the assets.

I'm sitting here thinking back in the day, right, we would do, like, mock ups of, like, 7 pages. And then some Yahoo would be like, well, I think the button should be green. And you're like, I gotta go back and change all these buttons. It's green. All the mock ups.

But then you could be, like, make this green. Beep bop boop. All of a sudden, all the mock ups have green buttons. Like, I would love that. And, again, I'm getting frustrated because of all the hours I spent changing green buttons for those yahoos back in the day.

In theory, you're gonna be better at beep bop booping than than most other people now because you went through that. But I think that's, like, the next level, right, is once we know that we can maybe get away with not handling that stuff out of the gate when I think a lot of the value has been is like, okay. You gotta do it in this order, like, whichever tool you're using. And if you do that, you don't have to worry about these variables screwing up. Now we had maybe reduce some of that, worry about that less, and say, like, because I know if it doesn't come out right, it'll be just an easy, like, click and drag to, like, change the direction and add perspective.

For me, that's where the creative mind goes to now. I can try more things just to see what happens that I wouldn't have tried because I it would have created something that if it didn't work, it was a complete redo, and I couldn't use it again. Right? So it's super interesting to think about.

Not the skill of today, but it should be a skill in the future. You you literally, like, just try it. We live now in a world of why not just try it. Just try it and see. I've lived that way for a long time of, like, test again, I call it test everything.

Let's just try it and see. Like, what's the worst that can happen? Like but now, especially with what we're talking about today and, like, Adobe products and iteration and being creative and, like, old processes being now new processes, like, this mindset of try it. Just try it. I think it's it's huge moving forward.

Yeah. I, I've I've wanted to. I'm I'm only gonna dip my toe into it. The, the Mac stuff was just really amazing, and it was hard to to pass on. And I know that we spend a lot of time doing, you know, marketing stuff, processing stuff, strategy stuff.

So I wanted to I didn't wanna leave the creatives out, but definitely want to tease that a new lawsuit is on horizon. The subject of it is it should be it's important to to most everybody, especially in marketing, especially in in writing, especially in content, especially in SEO, especially in web. So tomorrow's tomorrow's show is gonna be a banger. It's,

Oh, wait. You're not talking about it now? No. Oh.

It it would be too perplexing to talk about it

right now.

That I feel like that's a hint, ladies and gentlemen. I feel like that's a hint.

Thank you. Because I was gonna make sure we hit 30 minutes today, so that's that's helpful. Let's dive in, George. What what is the skill of the day?

Yeah. Well, welcome back to another episode of skills that pay the bills. That's not an episode, but it is a section of this episode. Today, we're diving into something special for all of my web developer friends out there. Whether you're crafting a seamless front end experience or engineering a complex back end magic masterpiece, there's one undeniable truth.

Coding can be a real grind. But I I have a story, by the way, after this to tell you guys. We've all been there, pouring over lines of code, troubleshooting the elusive bug, or just staring at the screen waiting for a spark of inspiration to come or looking for that tutorial. Or if you're me slacking Nico and being like, bro, why is this broken? But what if I told you there's a new MVP on your team, an assistant that's about to completely level up the way you code?

Yep. We're talking about AI powered coding assistance, tools like GitHub Copilot, Replit, Ghostwriter, Codeum, Amazon Code Whisper, and, of course, ChatGPT can do some stuff too, and others are here to lend a hand helping you generate code snippets, autocomplete your ideas, and even debug issues all in real time. Now imagine this, you're not just coding solo anymore. You've got an always on assistant who's got your back. If you are a developer and somebody sends you this snippet of the skill that pays the bills and you're not leveraging these tools, what's the matter with you?

Like, here's the deal. Like, you can just the momentum is there, but, bam, you hit that wall that doesn't have to happen anymore. And so what I'm gonna say here is instead, you've got this AI assistant embedded right in your IDE, reading your code in real time, suggesting solutions, and even drafting code snippets for you. That's the magic on things like GitHub Copilot. They're not passive spectators.

They're active collaborators for you. And if you're trying to work through a tricky loop I'm trying to use all the coding language, by the way, in here just to get them all excited. Stop it because it can be easier. Think about the time that you could save. No more hunting through documentation or copying snippets from 5 different forums.

I see you out there. I've been there, done that. AI takes on that heavy lifting while you can stay focused on what really matters, building features, optimizing performance, and crafting experiences that you as the developer are proud of. Again, I'll say it on every one of these. AI is not here to take over your development job.

It's here to help you enhance your work. You're the creative force behind every line of code. The AI just make sure the journey from idea to implementation is faster. I think we were just talking about that earlier today. Smoother and less error prone.

It's like having a superpowered coding partner who never needs a coffee break even though as a developer, you have 12 coffee cups on your desk. But that's alright. We still love you. AI supercharges your productivity with AI powered coding assistance. You'll write code faster, make fewer mistakes, and spend less time troubleshooting.

Real time help, that's what I want you to think about. That's what I want you to think about is real time help. Okay. I'll go into my story. I'll go into my story.

I have a couple coder friends, and I will usually reach out and be like, I can't get this CSS to, like, do this thing that I'm and usually, it's around HubSpot forms, by the way. I'm just gonna throw that out there. It's really frustrating. My buddy, Chad GPT, knocked it out the freaking park the other day because I asked the question in Slack to my friend. But before my friend could come back with an answer, I had already got the code fixed 3 of the problems that I was having.

Now did I end up circling back around to the human and get them to actually help me with the last little bit? Yes. But was I able to get 90% there without actually needing another human? The answer is yes. So for you, coding genius, the next time you're coding, don't rely solely on muscle memory or hours of googling.

Tap into the power of AI. Work faster, debug smarter, and code with confidence because at the end of the day, you're the genius. AI is there to supercharge you. That's today's AI skill that pays the bills, coding assistance.

I gotta ask, did he help you with the last bit only because he replied at some point and you kinda felt you felt bad? No. So you had so you had him help you with something when you coulda just kept doing it?

Or No. No. He helped me because I don't think I knew the right question to ask to get the last fix because it also was a mobile fix. It wasn't just a desktop normal thing. And so I took a screenshot, and I said, well, I still can't get this.

And to which he went, beep bop boop. No. He didn't go beep bop boop. He then was like, oh, that's this here and sent me a couple lines of code, and I slapped it into what I had already created. Magic.

I mean, not magic. It was like coding masterpiece, but it felt like magic.

Magic to to bring it all together. Yeah. Yeah. As Niko was sharing the news, like, what was coming to mind is so often, at least for me, I get can get very excited about an idea and that I can see it very clearly in my head. I could see it in HubSpot built out completely, but then there's something on the way there.

Like, one little thing that, like, just gets in the way, and then I the momentum is gone. Motivation's gone. Like, just move on to the next thing. And when you're thinking about these little gaps that, like, I don't know how to do this or I haven't been able to do this before. I'll try it one time.

Doesn't work. Okay. I'm not gonna be able to complete this this project or this creative genius and everything in between. Those block are disappearing now if you know how to use these tools effectively. So I think both of you hit on on that value today.

And it's interesting from like, all the way from coding to, like, animation.

And what's crazy too, like because I wanna I wanna dive a little bit deeper, and then I'll I'll be quiet. Like, because it came down to context too. Because I want everybody to know when I was doing the coding, it was like, I'm trying to do this with a HubSpot form and make it look like this based on it's a WordPress site using WP Bakery. How do I do the code and this to make this you know, like and it oh, well, with WPBakery, and because it's WordPress, and HubSpot is oh, and here's the code. And I'm like, bebop boops.

I'm like, oh my god.

The the one thing that, I don't know, just kinda lit my brain up when you were talking about it was just the point at which you were like, yeah. I just copied and pasted the code and boom. It was like magic. And it just it stuck out because it's like, yeah, that's how it that's how it's gonna feel. Like, for a long time, like, for for a long time into the future, like, I linked something to the guys this morning that was a, I don't it seems like everybody's doing a a fireside now.

Like, that's become become a big term for the next few months, I guess. And so there was a a similar discussion with Sam Altman at University of Michigan. And he said in that discussion that, you know, the things that we're experiencing now, the exponential curve that we're on now, every year from now until the foreseeable you know, just forever since, like, 2019 onward, if you think about what things were like in 2019 to 20, 20 to 21, so on. Even last year to this year, think about where, you know, rendered like, text to video was last year, where it is this year. And it's only again, it's on an exponential curve upward.

So from here on out, it is only going to get more mind blowing every single year. Every single year, it will always feel like we've discovered this magical thing.

I was working on a project this morning, and I used to have to, like, explain to people. Well so if we're gonna do an engagement email, we wanna have, like, 3 places that they can connect with, and, you know, we wanna go to the buzz. And I had to, like, explain all this stuff. I was working on a project this morning, and I'm like, well, instead of explaining, how about if I just create this thing and throw it in their HubSpot portal and be like, hey, guys. This is an example of what we might be able to do.

Oh, by the way, this is probably really usable right now. And, like, in minutes, bro, in minutes, I fed it, like, 5 pages, 4 ideas, and some direction, and then went in and added my own, like, creative genius as far as imagery to go along with what was happening. And I just sat back and was like, I'm either cheating or I'm just really good right now. Because I I was like, have you ever given yourself a wow moment? Like, I it was a wow moment this where I was like, wow.

Like, holy mackerel. And I I'm not saying that because of me. I'm saying that because of the tools, because of the assistance, because of the education, because of the AI, because of when you when it feels like magic or you find that you're giving yourself wow moments when working with your clients or working on your stuff, I I would say that's an indicator that you might be headed in the right direction.

And we got a a viewer that shares that sentiment saying that's how they describe the early 2000 with the Internet shaping up. Such a fantastic time to be alive. Agreed. And and when you shared and Nikka shared the, agent AI interview with Dharmesh and Kieran on the, Marketing Against the Grain podcast so long ago, 1 1 month ago. And I remember the line, like, it's it's the best time ever to have a good idea and to be able to action on good ideas, to be able to have success with with your good ideas.

And that really resonated with with what I'm experiencing right now at least.

Yeah. I have to say the same thing. It's I think that's probably the most accurate statement and that it goes to goes right along with, you know, people who were afraid that this type of technology was actually going to shrink things or make things worse in some way. Yes. There is some there are some elements that are that are gonna go away, but those are also elements that should go away if that makes sense as well.

Right? So I'm not trying to pick out any particular sector. It's going to affect all of us. I'm only picking on this one because it's the most recent one I can think of where, you know, I can feel replacement forthcoming. I don't know why, but the waste management services, around my area have been having the most trouble, in the last year.

Sometimes they come by, sometimes they don't. Sometimes they pick up on time, sometimes they don't. Sometimes they just don't show up that week. So I understand and especially during the summertime, you know, they just seemingly don't wanna show up. I I get it.

It's, you know, actually, they change their schedule because global warming and the heat. So they they pick up much earlier in the morning before it gets too hot out, understandably. Long story short, this is not a job that any person wants to have to do. That's abundantly clear just based on their behavior. If they wanted to do it, the job would be utterly fulfilled.

You wouldn't be able to even host a position, and nobody would complain. Everything would be running on time. Right? I I wouldn't have made any of the statements I just made in the last minute. So that kind of stuff, yes, it's gonna get taken care of, right, because the want to do it is diminishing too.

So where where the want to do the work is going away, yeah, that stuff is gonna get fulfilled so that we can keep moving forward, right, altogether. So I just it's it's an enabling thing as far as I see it.

It's funny. The whole time you're saying that, I was like, yeah. But I saw this news story where, like, this trash guy, like, actually, like, waves at people. It's like, I think there's, like, the there's both sides of this. There are some people who have those jobs and love them.

There are some people who have those jobs and hate them. And so I think there there's gonna be a, it's funny because you used the word replacements, but I think there's gonna be what I'll call a remix where people are gonna shift into different parts or places of it. Because we're here's where I thought you were gonna go, Nikolas. I thought we were gonna talk about the day where I go outside and the trash, truck is going along, and it's the robot that's like, I'm here to pick up your trash. And he's like you know?

And, like, so it's it doesn't care if it's hot. It doesn't care if it's cold. It doesn't care if it's raining. The robot is just picking up the trash because that's what he's programmed to do. The truck's driving down the road.

It's you know, at 757 on a Tuesday, that JimBot Truck's

gonna be there.

Is gonna be the is gonna be in front of your thing picking up your trash because I think

that's what exactly where I was going with it. I I don't know. I didn't wanna paint the entire picture, but, yeah, that's exactly where I

was going with it.

I mean, I kinda talked about it the other day too, I think, that, like, you know, when I mentioned the the Cali Burger thing, you know, there's there's certain jobs that are just it's just the the way I can describe them is nobody wants to do them. And if you do wanna do them, you're in a a very small small select group, and that's you know, there's nothing wrong with that. There's artisans of every craft, aren't there? Doesn't matter what it is. Yeah.

Like, you could say the horse and buggy business is is gone, not last I checked. No. There are still some in circulation.

Go to Hartville, Ohio. They're still clippy clapping along. I'm just saying.

Go to New York. Go to Chicago. There are plenty of places where horse and buggy is a specialty, where you have to be an artisan. You have to know how to drive a buggy. So, like, the again, like, yeah, these things are gonna definitely get brought down, but unless you wanna end up as that specialty, you know, horse and buggy driver, then you definitely, definitely need to wake up with AI.

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